interesting OW fare from Tunis to JFK (includes AA J class to NYC) for 1195 usd al in
Escrito el 9 de January del 2009 por anonym.Beauty of this fare is IMHO in following:
# if AF flight out of TUN is used then AF segment seems to book into F class (I am not sure whether Tunisia-France flights actually have F class, but it should give F class credit)
# Stopovers (more than 24 hrs) are not possible, but rather interesting routings can be used within Europe allowing one to make short onenight stops in different cities (see example 2).
example 1
9th of Sept
AF 1285 TUN-CDG in F class
AA 45 CDG-JFK in J class
all in 13695 EEK (1193 USD)
example 2
15th of Sept
AZ 819 TUN-MXP in I class
AZ 402 MXP-FRA in I class
OV 162 FRA-TLL in D class
16th of Sept
CF 31 TLL-GOT in J class
SK 515 GOT-LON in J class
AA 141 LHR-JFK in J class
all in 13611 EEK (1185 UD)
But indeed, the HIP interferes with that. I tried to TUN MXP (stopover 1 week) AMS (stopover 1 week) CDG NYC LHR TUN on ITA. In the fare calculation, it is clear that the fare component TUN NYC is replaced by a E/XXX M MILNYC 2765NUC. Tricky indeed... in many fares there is "HIP may be ignored" but not on this one :(
TUN-JFK (Oct10 - 17)
Alitalia is 1430 Euro return in Business
American is 1630 Euro return
Delta is 1841 Euro return
There is also a good price for F:
American 2615 Euro
rules from AA.com:
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Seasonality Not Applicable
Day Time Application Not Applicable
Advance Reservation Ticketing Restrictions STANDBY NOT PERMITTED. OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED. NOTE - FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
Surcharges Not Applicable
Maximum Stay Not Applicable
Eligibility Not Applicable
Sales Restrictions TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING. NOTE - THESE FARES MAY BE USED RETROACTIVELY.
Flight Applications THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING IB FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5999.
Refunds Reissues IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES NO CHARGE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY FARE COMPONENT WITHIN PRICING UNIT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED 4. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED 3. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES NO CHARGE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY FARE COMPONENT WITHIN PRICING UNIT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED 4. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGES PERMITTED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. AA FARES ARE USED 3. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT 6. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO AA WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
Minimum Stay Not Applicable
Embargo Dates Not Applicable
Penalties Not Applicable
The only limitation is the maximum permitted mileage (+25%) to add legs in Europe. It increases the price in the same proportion as the distance increases, it adds up carriers fuel surcharges and taxes but for less than 2000 EUR all in, I priced:
TUN MXP CDG FRATLL GOT LHR NYC CDG CPH PRG BUH ATH TUN and you can stop as long as you wish in each city!
Were you actually able to price it out with stopovers?
it prices out without the stopover (just with the stops, taking these cities as connecting points) but after you have flown the first segment, you can make any change free of charge, changing dates, route etc. using fares valid at time of original ticket issuance. Therefore, instead of transiting, you can stop in these city, as allowed by the rules.
Tried pricing this using dates in November with stopovers in MXP and AMS, full Business return price came to be around 8000+ USD!
:p
a stopover for more than 23 hours 59 minutes (i.e. a true stopover) probably triggers the HIP rule, as mentioned by CHC Kiwi
FWIW DL shows it for 1600 and change USD all on AF metal.
No, but it can be ticketed as a round-trip for double the price.
Tried pricing this using dates in November with stopovers in MXP and AMS, full Business return price came to be around 8000+ USD!
:p
it prices out without the stopover (just with the stops, taking these cities as connecting points) but after you have flown the first segment, you can make any change free of charge, changing dates, route etc. using fares valid at time of original ticket issuance. Therefore, instead of transiting, you can stop in these city, as allowed by the rules.
And then watch as the fare climbs for each HIP that applies.
The only limitation is the maximum permitted mileage (+25%) to add legs in Europe. It increases the price in the same proportion as the distance increases, it adds up carriers fuel surcharges and taxes but for less than 2000 EUR all in, I priced:
TUN MXP CDG FRATLL GOT LHR NYC CDG CPH PRG BUH ATH TUN and you can stop as long as you wish in each city!
Lufthansa Airlines Flight LH4111 on a Boeing 737 (jet) in business class
(breakfast)
Departs Tunis, Tunisia (TUN) Mon, Sept 24 3:35a 2 hrs 30 min
Arrives Frankfurt, Germany (FRA) 6:05a
1 adult in booking code Z, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in Frankfurt 4 hrs 50 min
American Airlines Flight AA71 on a Boeing 777 (jet) in first class
(lunch, snack, movie)
Departs Frankfurt, Germany (FRA) Mon, Sept 24 10:55a 10 hrs 35 min
Arrives Dallas/Fort Worth, TX (DFW) 2:30p
1 adult in booking code F, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in Dallas/Fort Worth 4 hrs 45 min
American Airlines Flight AA1626 on a MD-80 (jet) in first class
(snack)
Departs Dallas/Fort Worth, TX (DFW) Mon, Sept 24 7:15p 1 hr 45 min
Arrives Nashville, TN (BNA) 9:00p
1 adult in booking code F, covered by fare (A1) below
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